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Construction. >> well, the president has been making a lot of those claims and nobody in the administration, the white house or the department of homeland security, has been leaping to explain himself. frankly neese these numbers, the $115 billion that he says is being gimp out, well, that as you know, jim, is not a real thing. the president doesn't just sign a check and hand out money for a contract at the border. president trump is simply taking what already exists perhaps fencing over on the border and calling it his wall. he's been doing that and similar things for quite some time now. the...

Renovating, yes. new construction in fact, no. abby phillips is at the white house tonight with a closer look at the wall and the shut down over it. we've been speaking a lot these last few days, the question being, is the white house showing signs of giving ground and are democrats, where do those negotiations if any, where do they stand right now? >> reporter: where they stand is beak that we have no more clarity today than we did several days ago. the president's rhetoric has stayed the same. he's talking about a desire for a border wall but not talking any amount of specifics what exactly ...