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To that. i really had to think about that hard. i'm one of these tenderhearted people, and i said, well, i want her to know her sister. >> her sister? yes, barbara told rhonda she and renee were half sisters. daughters of the same mother, the woman who worked the streets. barbara said by then she didn't trust shirley with rhonda, but -- >> i wanted rhonda to know her sister. i wanted her to have family and stuff, and i asked bob. he sno, she couldn't, at first. and then he relented, let her go. and next morning we went to get her, and they were gone. >> and they didn't come back. >> bob and ba...