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First off, the rooney rule has not worked. that's the policy that requires lead teams to interview ethnic minority candidates for head coaching or senior football operation jobs. so far, the rule has failed to lead the real diversity in the upper ranks of the league. right now, there are only two black head coaches and no black owners of 32 teams. even though the league's players are predominantly black. what we need is not just different rules, but a more equitable outcome. if the nfl wants to move forward to address the concerns of its fans, then we must ask why teams should be entitled to p...

Like colin kaepernick their jobs back. they can't have people who stand up in protest or kneel in protest and not give their jobs back and go out and have this big, fun halftime party. it's hard to watch when that is going on in the nfl. then we can talk about other changes that need to be made in the nfl. but it shouldn't be about the performers. it needs to be about what the nfl has been doing in terms of head coaching, in terms of qbs, in terms of the way they treat their players. >> mara, quick last word. >> yeah. i don't disagree with any of that. the onus is on the league to make the cha...

Was clear. first off, the rooney rule has not worked. that's the policy that requires lead teams to interview ethnic minority candidates for head coaching or senior football operation jobs. so far, the rule has failed to lead the real diversity in the upper ranks of the league. right now, there are only two black head coaches and no black owners of 32 teams. even though the league's players are predominantly black. what we need is not just different rules, but a more equitable outcome. if the nfl wants to move forward to address the concerns of its fans, then we must ask why teams should be en...

Executes them. this is a case where the numbers just don't lie. obviously this is the makeup of color. 70% of the league is made up of players of color. it's pretty clear. it's pretty clear. now look at the distinction of head coaching. of the players that are of color, three out of 32 head coaches right now are of color. 26 of the current head coaches, there are still some vacancies belong to white men. let's look at why this is. in the last ten years, the nfl has tried. they've had the rooney rule. the league has tried to encourage these owners to essentially do better. they've not required ...

Hiring in positions. >> coy wire with more. a meeting with commissioner roger goodell. the record, not great from the groups. did we see any concrete progress? >> reporter: that's the word that so far so good, jim. good morning to you, bianna. meeting came a week after a class action lawsuit filed by brian flores, miami dolphins, suing with organizations for alleged racial discrimination. among those involved naacp derek johnson, the president and ceo of national urban league, and reverend al sharpton, the national action network. they're calling on goodell to replace the rooney rule which req...