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Head start programs have been shut down around the country, about 19,000 families involved with that. of course, the panda cam turned off over at the national zoo. here's another way of looking at it. if you combine all of this together and say let's not talk just about the money directly not being paid to federal workers, but the ripple effect of that, there is analysis out there by moody analytics that say if you combine it all, it will be equal to the economic impact of hurricane katrina and super storm sandy minus the property damage, or about a quarter to half million dollars from the tim...

E.j., conservatives in washington act as if people aren't getting hurt. are they so out of touch or how do you explain it? >> well, i think for some conservatives there's just this deep ideological sense that government doesn't do much good anyway, so we're not going to miss it. well, people in the wick program, women, infants, and children, 9 million mothers and babies, basically are going to start losing benefits in about a week if this shuts down. people who use head start programs. those are going to slowly shut down. which is bad for a lot of reasons including for working poor people. but...

Extremists. now, senator boxer is absolutely right. all that has to happen -- speaker boehner even now knows, because about 20 republican members have publicly said that they would vote for a clean continuing funding resolution if it comes on the floor. all john boehner has to do is grow some courage and put that bill on the floor and allow the whole house to vote on it. we can send it to the senate, the senate can send it to the president, and we can reopen the government and stop hurting women and children. and -- who need nutrition. stop -- make sure little kids can go back to their head st...

What else is there? >> reporter: right. that's of course, we're seeing the picture of the monuments closed and veterans that couldn't get to the world war ii memorial yesterday. but there's also the impact of money going out. take for example head start. there are 1,600 head start programs across the country that help about a million children, low-income children with education, health issues and nutrition. they will close down as long as this keeps going. at first it will be a couple dozen, but the longer the shutdown goes on, the money will dry up and those kids will be affected. this is hav...

♪ >> today on capitol hill, protesters outraged over the shutdown's effect on head start programs specifically. as many as 19,000 children in 11 states lost access to head start today because the programs in those states did not get the annual grant they were scheduled to receive today. coming up i'll talk to michael about what history will likely say about obama care and the government shutdown. also -- >> i have think most people are being surprised. even folks that show up every day for work at the vatican. >> pope francis has been making headlines, this time for candid remarks on the chu...