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Mental health and school safety and clinton era position that would deputize people to have a firearm they're only giving specific ideas of changing gun control laws. its much more comprehensive solution. we need to hear what that includes. bill: more than a 30 round clip. kirsten, give you the last word. >> i agree you have to look at mental health issue and not separate it. it is probably the more important issue than gun laws. separately they will focus a lot of time on that. republicans are open to spending even more money on that issue. bill: kirsten, thank you. miss fairbanks chimes in t...