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What's changed? >> i think the key thing that's changed is that vice president suleiman has started meeting with opposition leaders and issued this several point plan this morning on a roadmap forward towards political transition. this is good. >> and as i noted. it says absolutely nothing about mubarak, and when our reporters go down to that square, they go no deal. mubarak has to go. if you have a process to move forward, but you've got hundreds of thousands of demonstrators saying we're not going forward unless mubarak is gone, how does that move you? >> you can't ignore the factor of mubar...

Keeping things in check in the streets. there's still very much in charge of maintaining security. so it is several factors together that are contributing to this better atmosphere in egypt. but, again, if -- if confidence from the demonstrators -- population at large decreases because of arrests, detentions, and this type of thing, then you might see the situation deteriorate again. remember the muslim brotherhood is participating in talks but they are making sure that people know they do not trust this government yet. >> hala, thanks. joining me now here in washington, edward walker, forme...

History? >> well, it always helps to have the perspective of history but ronald reagan, you know, his fans would say he won the cold war without firing a shot. he certainly had a big debate in the country about the size and scope of government. now ronald reagan did cut taxes and at times raised taxes. people forget that. he said he would shrink the size of government. the government didn't shrink but he was always an optimist. he made compromises. that's a big lesson we can learn in today's politics. the world changed during and just after the reagan presidency. just about 40 yards from me to...

Sit down with the vice president. does it matter? >> i know mr. el baradei quite well, when he was at the international atomic agency, i think he's played a spokesman role. he's not the only player. he has his point of view, that mubarak must step down. it seems to me the momentum of events may shift. we may have an h an inflection point with the agreement that came out. >> we should just say to remind our audience, that the vice president appointed by mubarak recently in the last couple of weeks, sat down with a number of opposition groups, including the muslim brotherhood, youth groups and o...

Completely wrong message to the egyptian people. so i'm not the only one confused here about what the u.s. wants. >> first of all, i think we all agree this is an incredibly complicated and delicate situation. changing very, very rapidly. and if i may just take a minute, i think the opposition groups in egypt are very interesting. they are not monolithic. they had some tactical differences in them. there are some personalities involved. they are also trying to figure out how to operate together. there is a desire i believe on behalf of some within the government to split the opposition, so tha...