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Rid of them, deport them at the border. what do you think of that? >> i think that here's the time when we actually need to use the law that was put in place in 2008 because there is a crisis. there's a humanitarian crisis. these children are in trouble. that's why that law was passed. thankfully, things weren't so bad at the time. now it is. so when you need them to pull it away makes no sense, and in fact, it's exactly contrary to everything we stand for. >> what about this idea that this is essentially tough love? that basically, you know, bleeding heart liberals and woolly headed idealists...

Thankfully things weren't so bad at the time. enough it is. so when you need them to beautiful it away, makes no sense and in fact is exactly contrary everything we stand for. >> what about the idea this is essentially tough love, that basically bleeding heart liberals and wooly-headed idealists who said we're going to give these kids due process rights have paved the way for this crisis by creating the conditions under which people come and call back to their home country and say, it's truism went to border patrol, they stamped me. i have a court date and i can stay. >> they're going to fine ...

Border. what do you think of that? >> i think that here's the time when we actually need to use the law that was put in place in 2008 because there is a crisis. there's a humanitarian crisis. these children are in trouble. that's why that law was passed. thankfully, things weren't so bad at the time. now it is. so when you need them to pull it away makes no sense, and in fact, it's exactly contrary to everything we stand for. >> what about this idea that this is essentially tough love? that basically, you know, bleeding heart liberals and woolly headed idealists who have basically said, we're ...