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Brought up heads rolling, carol, i have to ask you about james murray, this is a guy who is the director of the secret service who trump put in this job. he didn't put him in the job in the beginning of his administration. it was year three when trump had learned how do i put my loyalist, my boys in these key positions? lo and behold, james murray, beginning of this month, resigned from the secret service. he said he's headed to snapchat at the end of this month, the one place that specializes in deleted messages. what can you tell -- messages that disappear, excuse me. what can you tell us ab...

He says things that may be off. he does things off. but he is bankable. if there's one thing that the democratic leadership is terrified of, it's losing to donald trump in 2020. democratic voters, too. if they cannot pull this off in 2020, there will be heads rolling in the democratic leadership. democratic voters are saying, this is it a layup. what do you mean we couldn't win? at this point, it's a little more about who can we -- who is going to be best for top billing right now? >> i think there's a combination of a layup and we are panicked we will screw it up. those things end up in weird...

It's people like senator lindsey graham raising concerns. clearly the doj report today, once we have it, we'll got to the bottom of it. that is also going to create more noise. the "washington post" is reporting that peter strzok and the report said it will stop president trump from becoming president. that's what the post is saying. that will create more fodder for congress and president trump. so we're going to be hearing more. >> matt, what do you make of the alleged accusations of rod rosenstein alleging the threats which he denies? >> first of all, i'd like to make a prediction. i think m...

Others say leak because of grudges trying to get back at other people. ainsley: one guy that was interviewed says he is tries to put in different he might say certain it i don't mean or phrasing. he will put that in the leak so it looks like did you it and not me. steve: the president looks to his advisors to be around him to speak their mind. the advisors feel like if i say something that that pinner doesn't like and they are going to leak it the president is not getting good advice. is he owed the sanctity of a private conversation. nonetheless, there is leaking going on at the white house l...

Regardless of what happens with the criminal investigation no, one wants to find ourselves in a position where a foreign adversary worked the campaign. >> i think people like me want to see heads rolling. >> let's go with you. >> you were one of the guys asking the questions. we got nothing out of her. she is just stone walling. >> that speaks to a broader dynamic in the white house. all of these senior officials are unwilling to talk about the matter. there was not a robust defense of donald trump jr. no one wants to get too far out of this and create their own legal exposure and make themsel...