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And trump engineered. those three factors built this illusion of who donald trump was on the campaign trail. there's been a wide differential between that image that we saw and the actual governance of this president. >> well, there is a belief in him that very much is akin to faith. that's why this whole religious point of consternation and pivot is so interesting. rick, heal quickly, god bless. thank you for being on the show. i'll speak to you soon. >> merry christmas. this is interesting, having this christian magazine come out and say these things about the president. one, even the christ...

For trump and for this sort of nationalist populism that bannon and trump engineered. those three factors built this illusion of who donald trump was on the campaign trail. there's been a wide differential between that image that we saw and the actual governance of this president. >> well, there is a belief in him that very much is akin to faith. that's why this whole religious point of consternation and pivot is so interesting. rick, heal quickly, god bless. thank you for being on the show. i'll speak to you soon. >> merry christmas. this is interesting, having this christian magazine come ou...