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The back and forth of the activists and supreme court justices during moments in which the supreme court is hearing cases that directly influence them and are part of their sort of ideological crusade, i mean, it just such a shocking breech of ethics that the justices have to understand how just destructive that is to the legacy of the court. >> it's not even that. it's not simply that the people are wealthy and access, but for most ordinary americans, the work of the court was incredibly inaccessible until the pandemic when the court began live streaming audio of oral arguments. otherwise, yo...

John eastman knows clarence thomas, now through ginni. he clerked for him. is there any chance the supreme court is going to respond to this reporting? >> again, this doesn't look great for the court. and i want to just emphasize, we don't know what mrs. thomas 's involvement is. we don't know if it reaches a level of criminal liability. again, we don't know how enmeshed they are in the [inaudible] work of justice thomas and his wife actually is. but it doesn't matter. any lawyer will tell you, the perfect question of professional excellence isn't a question of what actually happened. but what...

Prohibits supreme court justices from hearing cases in which their spouses have quote, an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding. but republicans don't think justice thomas should have recused himself. republicans, including house minority leader, kevin mccarthy. >> i think justice thomas can make a decision that he's made every other time. it's his decision based upon law. if you spend any time studying the supreme court justice, he's one who studies correctly. >> joining us now is emily basil, on staff writer for the new york times magazine and a fello...

When it comes to the code of conduct. in fact, they're free from them but subject to a federal law that prohibits them from hearing cases their spouses and jenny has an interest that could be subjected by the outcome of the proceeding. joining me is melissa murray for sonia sotomayor. i'll start with you. you clerked for sonia sotomayor but what do you make of this? i can't think of another justice. i knew ruth bader ginsburg knew, i've never heard this much about any other supreme court justice. have you and what do you make of these text messages? >> well, i think supreme court spouses try t...

Generals were being killed in the line of combat. >> no, lawrence. that is exactly right. it is a sign, by the, way of the chaos that is going on in the russian war effort. the russian military is a very top organization. the junior officers are not normally expected to show a lot of initiatives. it is the senior officers that are going to take command. and if things go wrong, the senior officers from what we can tell, actually have to show up. they have to go to the front. they have to see what is happening. so it is one, there is chaos on the ground, but it also speaks to the fact that there...