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Confirmation vote on brett kavanaugh so the fbi can investigate claims of sexual misconduct. flake later told "the atlantic" that encounter struck a chord and also told the magazine, the supreme court is the lone institution where most americans still have some faith and the u.s. senate as an institution, we're coming apart at the seams. just these last couple of days the hearing itself, the aftermath of the hearing, watching pundits talk about it on cable tv, seeing the protesters outside, encountering them in the hall, i told chris coons, the democratic senator from delaware, our country is ...

Up telling their stories. it was people like me who have talked about their stories and sexual assault very hurt my lindsey graham and others questioning the veracity of her story and not his. and that's actually that's what always happens is you're interrogating the person who was saying i was victimized by that person. he did it. and you're not interrogating him. that was born out in the hearing itself, right? they brought in a prosecutor to interrogate the victim and halfway through his questions they were like, no, we're going to make speeches about how it's so sad for him but we're not go...

Hollywood" tape that we all heard, he's now telling people privately it is not even his voice. he has this alternate reality. that doesn't play well with people he needs to support kavanaugh. >> another major headline out of this news conference, all of the sudden the president is saying his preference is not to fire the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. he may even delay the meeting he had scheduled with rosenstein tomorrow. he doesn't want to necessarily step on the hearing itself, and maybe it will wait a few more days. >> well, he's a showman, as we know, and he probably realizes tha...

You don't know what's going to happen from day to day? i remember back in the thomas hearings when senator byrd was asked what he was going to do. and he said in a situation like this, we should give the benefit of the doubt to the court and the country. and that's what the republicans should be doing right now, from the white house down pennsylvania avenue to the senate. give the benefit of the doubt to the court and the country. and that means have an investigation that will then lead to a hearing that will then lead to a vote if appropriate. and instead, they are playing the hardest of hard...

Change can go. and especially for an institution like the supreme court. we'll see. >> and, dennis, with respect to the hearing itself, what do you think some of these candidates, or nominees are going through right now, meeting with the president, four have met, two more as i understand it are going to be meeting with him. how do you think they communicate to him without him asking the question, how conservative and supportive they would be? >> i think we have to take the president at his word that he hasn't asked for a litmus test. i think there will be an honest exchange. and the president ...