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What information did we just get? what was this for? mm. we'll read the transcript and see if i can ferret some -- joining us now is joel rubin, former deputy assistant secretary for legislative affairs at the state department. mr. rubin, thank you so much for being here this evening. >> great to be with you, rachel. >> those were comments just moments ago from chairman gowdy saying he does not think that any new information was provided by this hearing process today. i know you have testified before this committee as well. did you go through some same kind of process that secretary clinton we...

Today. >> i -- i think some of jimmy jordan's questioning -- well, when you say new today, i mean, we knew some of that already. we knew about the e-mails. in terms of her testimony, i don't know that she testified that much differently today than she has the previous times she's testified. i'd have to go back and look at the transcript. >> so that's the bottom line, then, i guess. what information did we just get? what was this for? mm. we'll read the transcript and see if i can ferret some -- joining us now is joel rubin, former deputy assistant secretary for legislative affairs at the state...

Former deputy assistant secretary for legislative affairs at the state department. mr. rubin, thank you so much for being here this evening. >> great to be with you, rachel. >> those were comments just moments ago from chairman gowdy saying he does not think that any new information was provided by this hearing process today. i know you have testified before this committee as well. did you go through the same kind of process that secretary clinton went through? >> well, secretary clinton did us all proud. for those of us who served at the state department, she was poised, eloquent, and really ...