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President's lawyer at the time, john dowd, had discussions with lawyers for flynn and manafort about a pardon last year. these were discussions in which it was broached. so the question is, is that okay in terms of obstruction of justice? can the president use his power of pardon to extend it to folks that are under investigation in something that is related to him? and is this something that sticks in manafort's head as he tries to figure out how to move forward? >> hey, jill, we are still -- we american people -- not used to hearing sarcasm from the american president as we did today. we rea...

In terms of obstruction of justice? can the president use his power of pardon to extend it to folks that are under investigation in something that is related to him? and is this something that sticks in manafort's head as he tries to figure out how to move forward? >> hey, jill, we are still -- we american people -- not used to hearing sarcasm from the american president as we did today. we read the words from his twitter account. congratulations, america. it was not, it turns out, about the president's council on physical fitness or anything of the sort. but it was a kind of trolling the muel...

Tries to figure out how to move forward? >> hey, jill, we are still -- we american people -- not used to hearing sarcasm from the american president as we did today. we read the words from his twitter account. congratulations, america. it was not, it turns out, about the president's council on physical fitness or anything of the sort. but it was a kind of trolling the mueller effort and reminding especially everyone in his base that this continues -- this cloud continues. >> yeah, absolutely. it was a series of three kind of extraordinary tweets from him. the president's in an interesting posi...