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>> i don't like that idea. i've been through four of those in my career. it's not a good thing. but i don't think it's totally his fault, but it has to come -- something's got to give. i think the wall is necessary. >> if i were to see a wall go up in my community, i would feel very oppressed by that. i love the fact that i live in a community that has this bi-national fluidity. >> reporter: so one of the things, steph, that you were talking about before is does border security equal a concrete border wall like the president is asking for. and if you listen to that local resident that we just ...