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The Story With Martha MacCallum

the host of media buzz and the former deputy assistant sector estate fortress dietrich communications both columbia graduates how it from the graduate school of journalism and from that perspective first let me start with you philippe, what goes through your mind when you listen to the students any listen to katie who was just with those. >> well two things, first watching that grass and i'm sure that how he also we've walked every step of that i was curious win one of them was saying we are liberating columbia, liberating from what that was just grass beforehand, watching katie was very tough not sure there's anything that i could say to add to that, she hit the nail, every nail on the head this is a very difficult, to protect the balance between protecting speech and then between protecting people is difficult it just is but when you watch that it is common sense when you watch people saying i am hamas we want to do this a thousand times that's not

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The Story With Martha MacCallum

middle it's because they are going for massive and maximum destruction and maximum hurt. >> martha: where this is headed we will see a sad day really for so many of these is on-campus and you listen to katie who had to leave her dorm room and move off campus and in with family it just horrible. >> martha: so sad, thank you so much great to have you both with us today thank you gentlemen. >> thank you martha. >> martha: the biden camps new efforts to debunk claims that the president is a elderly man with a poor memory in the words of robert her so many of you who have served your country honorably, whether it's two years, four years, or thirty-two years, like myself. one of the benefits that we as a country give you as a veteran is your eligibility for a va loan. not 80 percent

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The Story With Martha MacCallum

students and martha as you mentioned i have been chatting with a lot of columbia university jewish students to tell me in edition to walking past this where they hear rhetoric that they find personally hurtful and offensive they are also hearing some remarks off campus that are particularly alarming, listen to this. >> never forget the 7th of october. [ shouting ] [ inaudible ] >> that video shared with us by katie who was there on set saying that is what her friend who was a jewish had to endure when she walked off campus, columbia university tells us that protest have been happening

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The Story With Martha MacCallum

incredible unfolding here in new york city live on the air yesterday a senior at columbia a jewish student who stopped by as the protest went on spoke with our reporters on the scene there and this is what she had to say. >> you're walking by your fellow students all of us recognize people that we go to class with every day who are calling for our genocide. >> i don't even want to go to my own graduation anymore to be honest with you because this is what's going to happen. >> martha: heartbreaking katie joined me onset today we will speak with her in a moment but first two correspondent cotton who is following today's unfolding story at columbia university dabbling in protest of their right? >> hello that is correct we are reporting live from the campus of columbia university what students here call a liberated zone and take a look and there hundreds here who have gathered to protest of the ongoing conflict in the middle east and call for the university to divest from companies with ties to israel you can see the tents

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The Story With Martha MacCallum

since the start of the israel hamas war and they will be allowed to continue, back to you >> martha: thank you very much from columbia and the app or mentioned it katie a senior at columbia she is obviously, you have heard what it has been like for her very difficult experience, katie welcome what goes through your mind when you watch that video that your friend i guess shot that video? and people saying october 7th will happen every day 100 times, a thousand times. >> it's sickening and truly heartbreaking to think that i go to school with people who have these horrible anti- israel and anti-jewish and anti- american beliefs, it's really quite disturbing to think that these people are allowed to be around me and my classmates and to see my friends, people i recognize on these videos being screamed at that these people condone their rape and murder it's just

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