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Lobbies driving these costs -- >> heather: let me interject here. >> you're making up an argument. >> heather: the president did offer to deal with the debt last summer, he offered to raise the debt ceiling by closing loopholes and not raising taxes. quote, give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenue which is could be accomplished without hiking tax rates. it could be simply a accomplished by eliminating loopholes. that's what the president said and that's exactly what republicans offered him weeks ago. so why didn't he take that offer, alexis? why the ultimatum and insisting on tax increases ...

Both houses in time. but if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up or down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job and lace the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> heather: alexis is the executive director of the american values institute and ford owe continental is chairman of civic forum pac. thank you both for joining us. >> thank you for having us. >> heather: the pledge to work on a new bill is by no...

Intruder. >> we are training teachers, actually all school employees, for their application, for their permit to carry a concealed firearm. in utah, they have the unique advantage of being able to carry in schools, we do not restrict law abiding people with a concealed to carry permit from carry not guilty a school. >> hawaii, new hampshire, and oregon also allow teachers with permits to carry on campus. lawmakers in arizona and washington state looking into the idea. such proposals face stiff resistance from gun control advocates, including teachers unions. the american federation of teachers...

Continue. also much more on the status of president george h.w. bush. >> kelly: we're glad he is doing better and out of intensive care. we'll continue to follow his story and make sure he's doing well. we'll have that and more. >> heather: anna kooiman live in times square as we prepare for, as we were talking about, new year's eve. harris faulkner up next. see you ♪ constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips...

People decide who has been naughty and who has been nice. i think ford is right on one thing, the american people are very, very tired of this. they think congress is to blame and that they need public opinion back on their side. the short-term solutions are going to make a huge difference in people's lives, particularly people who are unemployed. these long-term decisions are not -- >> alexis, my friend, i couldn't disagree with you more. >> heather: speaker boehner -- back to what you said in the beginning, speaker boehner will did have a bill and tid have a plan. ford f there is a reid-mcco...