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trump empire. and what he found than probably wouldn't shock anyone today. but back then it was a big deal. tim o'brien discovered that donald trump's much lauded business excellence was actually far less impressive than trump had anyone to believe. he found that donald trump had been significantly overstating his net worth by billions of dollars. that he wasn't remotely close to being a billionaire. and so in 2005, tim o'brien wrote a book exposing donald trump's prolific lies, and exaggerations about his wealth. donald trump reported by suing time o'brien for defamation a year late...

Didn't take the fifth and he says something, in a deposition, it could be used against him and that form. and also, he is heading to trial, both the trump organization and his cfo, and that could also you know, anything that he says and his opposition could land him potentially, land him in that as well. so there is a lot of property going into it today if he did decide not to take the fifth. it just sort of thought of it like it's a basketball, thrown and you don't know quite where it was going to land. >> this is unusual for donald trump because there are always lawyers who say, hey maybe sa...