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People and they give back to you in their presence and their smiles and their vocal response and we pulled a lot of rabbits out of hats. >> this was not just showmanship. he had a mission. >> because i presumed that most people would go there, i had a responsibility if i'm benevolent to get as many of them out of hell. >> which that's the point of your services. >> of all services. of all -- >> the point of your life was to keep people from hell. >> absolutely. it wasn't -- we didn't come here just to worship god. we came here to avoid his hell. >> but, even then, the trouble had already worme...

Guiding people and giving to people and they give back to you and in their presence and their smiles and their vocal response and we pulled a lot of rabbits out of hats. xbl this is not just showmanship. he had a mission. >> because i presumed that most people would go there. i had a responsibility if i'm benevolent to get as many of them out of hell. >> which that is point of your services? >> of all services. of all -- >> the point your life was to keep people from hell. >> absolutely. it wasn't -- we didn't come here just to worship god. we came here to avoid his hell. >> but even then, the...