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January and manafort's lawyers in their very last memo which is probably why no one noticed this is like here's the email that manafort sent to rick gates saying print this out. >> right. >> and print this out so we know that that's the exhibit and then it says, here's the pages of the date that that we're all discussing, it's actually 76 pages i've been corrected on it but it's at least 7 apages long so a chuck of polling data. it wasn't just top lines. >> which does seem material to this, right? because as you said this sort of question that had been hinted at by mueller's lawyers in the bre...

Polling data and giving it to him and the idea that manafort's own lawyers are copping to the fact that what they gave him was like a big hefty chuck of whatever it was. >> and i mean his lawyers also say, i mean they kind of go back and forth on how they're explaining it but say it was so complex and so focused i don't understand so the judge is like that's the point, right? >> right. >> so her discussions about why it was material are actually really interesting, but mueller isn't saying that. mueller has been silent about what that august 2nd, 2016 meeting is. we know it's central to the in...