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And the sort of field organization has always been on the other side on the pro-gun side. and so to have a counter there is very helpful. obviously each senator is going to have to make up his own or her own mand and i respect that. >> but does this hurt your cause as you try to recruit a heidi heidekamp on your side? >> i have a great deal of respect for that. >> senator schumer, i have to leave it there. we have a businessy morning and a packed show. i thank you. >> thank you. >> happy passover. >> nice to talk to you. now for the republican perspective, another member of the so-called gan...

Obviously each senator is going to have to make up his own or her own mand and i respect that. >> but does this hurt your cause as you try to recruit a heidi heidekamp on your side? >> i have a great deal of respect for that. >> senator schumer, i have to leave it there. we have a businessy morning and a packed show. i thank you. >> thank you. >> happy passover. >> nice to talk to you. now for the republican perspective, another member of the so-called gang of eight, jeff flake. senator, welcome. senator, let me start -- >> thanks for having me on. >> let me start with the same question that...

Heidi hidekamp. >> one thing i look for is i talk to people about running for the senate as democrats real leaders who understood what was happening to people in the state. heidi heidekamp is a great example of someone in a red state but has down home valu values. joe donnelly same thing. understand what is is happening to the working class today and wants to come to washington, d.c. to solve the problem. across the board, our candidates really said yes at a tough time to run because they want to come together and work. you hear joe donnelly say time and again, i'm not coming to represent a pa...