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Handling two things in once. yes, what's going on in washington is grave. in my view, it is not something that ought to be about partisan politics. >> reporter: the candidate who has risen more than anyone, elizabeth warren, said she definitely does not think impeachment will hurt democrats. >> this latest business with ukraine where it appears that he is willing to take taxpayer dollars and dangle them in front of a foreign country in order to help himself and his own political chances of being relected is wrong, it's a violation of the law, and congress has a duty to perform. that's impeachm...

About rudy giuliani and the issue of evidence. >> sure. >> we're going to need evidence from rudy giuliani and it's our intention, as soon as the first thing next week to subpoena him for documents and there may very welcome a time where we want to hear from him directly. >> dana: sort of confusing for people. as i just explained as a reminder to people, that impeachment is a political calculation. there's not a definition of impeachment for a specific crime, etc. when adam schiff said he needs to gather evidence, does that work like it would in a court of law? >> not very cleanly. you made th...

Nice man, knew, was perfect. it was perfect. but the whistleblower blower reported a totally different statement, like the statement was not even made. i guess statement you could say with call. i made a call. the call was perfect. when the whistleblower reported this, he made it sound terrible. then you have adam schiff, even worse, made up my words. that's horrible. adam schiff representative, congressman, made up what i said. he actually took words and made it up. the reason is, when he saw my call to the president of ukraine, it was so good, that he couldn't do anything but a there was not...

-- congress must investigate the contents of that telephone call between the president and a foreign leader. you now, if you take this to its logical conclusion, it means any time anybody in the bureaucracy has a complaint that they say this is a problem, sends a memo, says you must turn it over to congress and pretty soon does -- can any presidential conversation be turned over to basically be listened to by congress and for that matter the whole world? >> it's a very fair question, right, which is we want to encourage actual whistle blowing but we don't want a situation where there's no priv...

Doesn't mean there's not room for criticism, doesn't mean for instance there's not room to explore rudy's role as a foreign policy person or the classification issue, did they do it to avoid leaks, do they do it regularly or is it something where someone in the white house thought this call doesn't have the optics we don't like. i'm not seeing anything that rings as criminal. the problem with impeachment is impeachment is whatever the hell congress says it is. they can pretty much call things abuse of power, betrayal of this that, or the other or mafia impersonation and they can probably go fo...