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Experience but this person can. quote, there's no such thing as a short phone call with vladimir putin. in the almost three years following russia's illegal annexation of crimea in march 201 2014,. a typical phone call lasted 90 minutes prolonged by putin's monologues and the translation. it was game of chicken. quote, it was a game that obama found ironic but not important. and he would simply busy himself with desk work or scrabble on his ipad if putin was slow to come to the phone. hello, vladamir, hello barack. their conversations while sometimes pointed were always civil and mostly respec...

It was a game that obama found ironic but not important. and he would simply busy himself with desk work or scrabble on his ipad if putin would be slow to come to the phone. hello, vladamir, hello barack. despite the number of times they engages, they were unable to resolve differences over ukraine. that comes from a new book called "tough love" by susan rice. she was on the calls and in addition to this being legitimately inspiring and fascinating, there is nobody in the world they would rather talk to about what is going on in our world right now thank her. joining us for the interview right...