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Lieu jan alpha lul, who was a passionate supporter of women's rights in saudi arabia, who is in prison as well. and the saudis essentially forced a divorce there. you know, the one thing we can take from jamal's column is that a prince who orders executions and torture should not be invited to state dinners, but should have to pay some consequences to support national 2340r norms. and we can certainly encourage the saudis to find a new crown prince who doesn't behave like that. >> asha i want to get your response because he says the arab world needs a modern version of the he's talking about t...

Saudis essentially forced a divorce there. you know, the one thing we can take from jamal's column is that a prince who orders executions and torture should not be invited to state dinners, but should have to pay some consequences to support national norms. and we can certainly encourage the saudis to find a new crown prince who doesn't behave like that. >> asha, i want to get your response to that last column because in it he says the arab world needs a modern version of that. he's talking about that's the only way to transform societies. your response to the column, and do you think he's rig...

Seizure of the entire print run of a newspaper, al masry al youm did not enrage or provoke a reaction from colleagues. these actions no longer carry the consequence of a backlash from the international community. instead these actions may trigger condemnation quickly followed by silence. a five-year prison sentence pales in comparison to what we're hearing about khashoggi and the seizure of a newspaper triggering condemnation. >> i've known jamal 15 years, and i could hear his voice in that. this is what he cared deeply about, about expanding space for free expression in the arab world. and th...

Supposed comments contrary to the saudi establishment. the egyptian government's seizure of the entire print run of a newspaper, al massry al uniform did not enrage or provoke a reaction from colleagues. these actions no longer carry the consequence of a backlash from the international community. instead these actions may trigger condemnation quickly followed by silence. five-year prison sentence pales in comparison to what we're hearing about khashoggi and the seizure of a newspaper triggering condemnation. >> i've known jamal 15 years, and i could hear his voice in that. this is what he care...