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Until january in control of the house did not want to help mueller. they wanted to do defense for the team trump and trump organization. all of that is about to change. you can see how eager democrats are to jump on that. >> how about in terms of for the president? legally and politically what do you think is the greatest for him right now? >> yeah. i think it depends what the transcripts of his associates show. another thing he has to worry about is his long-time bank of choice for the entire family and what it could potentially reveal especially given his complete inability to release his ta...

Into ukraine as well. >> paul manafort, yes. >> the president has responded to russia's aggression against ukraine. let's remind people what michael cohen told congress behind closed doors when he said, look, all talk about a moscow trump tower ended in january 2016. he said because, quote, the proposal was not feasible for a variety of business reasons and should not be pursued further. now we know from this reporting that there are questions about the honesty of that and where it went and who was involved and who in russia was involved. as you look at this, pam noted how rare it is for him t...

Is jared kushner and ivanka trump. they were apparently unhappy with don mcgann particularly because of what the president was talking about there, learning that he talked for some 30 hours and maybe they had something to do with all of this. >> yes, despite what the president said yesterday, they have a lot of reason to be worried. even if it seems like a inokay louse took place, help mueller in ways that they can't talk about. and they have not done everything by the book. there would not be an investigation.

Experts believe that. if he fired comey for corrupt reasons, if he asked comey to go easy on flynn for corrupt seasons and if mcgahn can help mueller establish that, that's obstruction of justice. you can't charge a sitting president, but i think we are moving towards a comprehensive report that will go to congress that may be more damning that we can imagine sitting here right now. >> i'm glad to you went back to the president's tweet. which is just the most disgraceful thing that this president could possibly say about bob mueller as a person. if he wants to criticize his prosecutorial work,...

Don mcgahn can be a crucial witness. and this story in the washington post where sources are suggesting he didn't incriminate the president, i read that as this is the giuliani philosophy that the president can't obstruct justice because he can fire whoever he wants for any reason. i don't think that robert mueller believes that or legal experts believe that. if he fired comey for corrupt reasons, if he asked comey to go easy on flynn for corrupt seasons and if mcgahn can help mueller establish that, that's obstruction of justice. you can't charge a sitting president, but i think we are moving...