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Of mueller's investigation. i don't know necessarily that they are, but let's say they are. if the southern district starts uncovering things about the president's shady business past, they can open a case there. i don't think that's off the table. it doesn't mean he has to come and help mueller, it could spawn more cases just in the southern district. >> although it's part of his plea, he has to basically help the state and federal prosecutors. >> it seems to be a very sweet deal. to me it says a lot about mueller. by my count this is the fifth guilty plea mueller has gotten in one year. >> t...

Team and the ukrainians running their investigations into manafort. that anti-corruption prosecutor now says since he has lost the authority to investigate manafort, that offer to cooperate is now, quote, moot. so, bottom line for us here in this country, does robert mueller, does the special counsel's office actually need these prosecutors in ukraine in order to nail paul manafort to the wall? judging from their progress, in their cases against him and two federal jurisdictions so far, probably not. probably not. it looks like they're doing fine. but we now know flat-out based on this remarka...

York times" today that the government in this other country spiked those active investigations and effectively spiked the offer for their prosecutors to cooperate with mueller specifically to curry favor with donald trump and the u.s. government. because they wouldn't want to help mueller. that might make trump mad. we also know that when they made that decision to drop those prosecutions in ukraine, the president and the u.s. government changed their long-standing position on whether or not to sell that country anti-tank weapons. they decide oh, you know what? actually, despite our previous o...

Investigation? >> well, it's going to help mueller establish even in a stronger sense whether or not and to what extent, the trump transition team and later the administration and, of course, earlier the campaign was trying to create back channels to russia. we still don't know necessarily why that is, but this meeting is very, very important. and the fact that george nader, who's this lebanese-american businessman with extensive ties in the middle east, a fixture in washington d.c. the last couple of decade, the fact he was there and representing the emrates is telling. because they've known ...

We look at people charged with crimes, people who pled guilty, we have flynn, papadopoulos, and gates all pled guilty to lying to the government. so prince might very well be next. >> natasha, the new details about this meeting, where does that lead now in this investigation? >> well, it's going to help mueller establish even in a stronger sense whether or not and to what extent, the trump transition team and later the administration and, of course, earlier the campaign was trying to create back channels to russia. we still don't know necessarily why that is, but this meeting is very, very imp...