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The election is over so they are on to the next talking point and meanwhile the torrent continues. despite the caravan being a method invented by president trump for a midterm, meanwhile henrique azevedo minister find it. i m a little bit confused. last time i checked which was just a couple days ago it seems like that caravan was in president obama s terms, a thousand miles away and they were walking. how did they get to tijuana? the caravan is very real. it s a movement of thousands of people, around 5,000 have already arrived to tijuana and the border with san diego, but it s not a national emergency and it s not a threat to national security of the united states. most of the people that are part of this caravan are just pushing strollers through mexico. they are families, women and babies just trying to get to the u.s. to illegally request asylum which president trump is making much harder. ....
Both sides of the border, both communities thrive. laura: real quick, henrique. just want to say, we can name one example of a successful terrorist attack on u.s. soil involving a crossing between the u.s. laura: how many people have flown planes into u.s. buildings before 9/11? what i m saying is, why are we focusing on the border laura: okay, i m glad we got to that. henrique, you really you really aren t for border enforcement or any wall or any fence. you ve actually believe in open borders and a free flow of peope and goods. i just wish more people would say that because it would make the conversation a lot easier. part of this world, open borders, open markets, free thought, whatever their lingo is. otherwise, awol but actually make their relationship with with mexico better because we could go through normal ports of entry and control trade and control the people in the flow. it would be much better. much better. gentlemen, we are out of time. thank you so much. ....
Border. we have drones, we have military grade surveillance laura: how do they get across, henrique? hold on. i want this to be a productive conversation. sure. laura: so when i go through the stats i think we put them on the screen we are talking 11.6 million people who have been apprehended at our southwest border since america was under attack. we lost almost 3,000 americans. okay? that is a security problem. and we might have some wall and i understand we have some fencing but we have, like, 170 miles along the laredo sector alone that is completely open. people can walk across or swim across. that is the problem. i m glad you want to make this a constructive conversation conversation, laura. you just had 3,000 u.s. citizens lost their lives on 9/11. there were at least 400 non-u.s. citizens, 90 countries law citizens on my day. laura: exactly. not just u.s. citizens. it goes to show you that the multiculturalism, the diversity ....
Was also a target, under attack by terrorists on that day. that is why they chose new york city, that is why they chose laura: let s get to the wall. let s focus this conversation. jason, i got to go to you. we got to move this forward. the line for a bit more of an open borders crowd is a wall is unnecessary superfluous, you were on the ground every day, in san antonio now, on the ground every day, your border agents are doing their best, what a wall help or not? let me put the answer is simple yes, it absolutely would. i can tell you, henrique is right, we do have a 700 miles of border along a 2,000-mile border. it s not enough. what we have right now is not enough to fully secure the border. we had nearly 20,000 men and women in the u.s. border patrol, almost 2,000 and the laredo sector alone. it s not enough. we still have people getting through, we still have people coming across our border that we don t know about. if we want to have a secure border, we want to truly prot ....
For, these are things that we need. the subject matter experts that have done is drop for decades on end, are telling us, we need a wall, we need infrastructures, we need roads to be as bold to respond, cameras to detect the traffic coming across and we need the brave men and women out there to do the job right. laura: you guys are the facts in the angle parade $175 billion, just in fiscal year 2017 on countermeasures. and we can find $25 billion over a period of time to pay for a physical barrier? it s not everything. but it s a statement and it will stop a lot of the flow. we saw the operation gatekeeper in the san diego sector, that cut down border patrol border crossings by 89%. that was started under bill clinton. then ultimately expanded under george w. bush. so henrique, mexico has the right to ask, and protect their borders, guatemala has the right to protect their heirs, ....