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People have made to congress to buttress the russian side of the collusion investigation. Thank you for that. We thank you for watching this hour of msnbc live throughout, i mean, from the very beginning craig melvin whos about to pick up our coverage from the day that Robert Mueller was appointed thrappoin appointed, this story has never been far from the headlines. Among these many days, this is huge. This is an infection pointing deep. Were going to continue our coverage. Good morning, craig melvin, msnbc headquarters here in new york city. That Breaking News on the Mueller Investigation is...

But you have to let these investigations take their course. we got to be very careful, chris, not to jump to conclusions because that's how these narratives get built that actually end up being false in the long run. >> guys only say what you're saying right now when they're on the short side of the stick. this isn't what your brothers and sisters in the party were saying when it was about carter page, right? it was these people are going after him with a fisa warrant, it was wrong. we know that a grand jury subpoena is nowhere near the level of scrutiny you need to get a fisa warrant. just be...

Get a fisa warrant. just because -- the bar here isn't whether or not the grand jury subpoenas were warranted, that's a very low bar of probative recognition. it's that they kept expanding and kept looking even after senior staffers said there's nothing here. that's the suspicious part and they happen to be the people that president trump hated most. >> well, two things on that point, number one, i speak for myself, what people say in the party, that's up to them. number two, as somebody who is actually pretty conservative, we'll talk about that in the next part of this interview, i've always ...

Craig, we talk about donald trump lying. he lies all the time. that's kind of his thing. but this is pretty important because the key here isn't whether or not he was trying to make money while he was a candidate. he's already moving towards trying to blur it and make that the defense. the key here is this is not private commerce. this is michael cohen confessing to outreach to the kremlin, to the leadership of the russian government because as people know, as people have learned from all the extra reporting we've done on russia, there isn't really a private market when it comes to big importa...