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By john, indicating jesus was in a subordinate position, which was a problem for the -- for the early church. >> for all the attempts by the gospel writers to reconcile john's status with that of jesus, what is certain is that ultimately it is jesus' movement that survives and prospers. >> initially, it seems that john is a mentor figure for jesus. after all, he's baptizing jesus in the river jordan and has attracted him there, but afterwards, they go their separate ways. >> one of the great lines of john the baptist that i really, really love is, as jesus is growing in popularity while john s...

>> in the gospels you see this -- trying to tackle this problem of jesus being baptized by john, indicating jesus was in a subordinate position, which was a problem for the -- for the early church. >> for all the attempts by the gospel writers to reconcile john's status with that of jesus, what is certain is that ultimately it is jesus' movement that survives and prospers. >> initially, it seems that john is a mentor figure for jesus. after all, he's baptizing jesus in the river jordan and has attracted him there, but afterwards, they go their separate ways. >> one of the great lines of john t...

Baptizing. >> in the gospels, you see this trying to tackle this problem of jesus being baptized by john, indicating jesus was in a subordinate position, which was a problem for the early church. >> for all the attempts by the gospel writers to reconcile john's status with that of jesus, what is certain is that ultimately it is jesus' movement that survives and prospers. >> initially, it seems that john is a mentor figure to jesus. after all, he's baptizing jesus in the river jordan and has attracted him there. but afterwards they go their separate ways. >> one of the great lines of john the b...

Indicating jesus was in a subordinate position which was a problem for the early church. >> for all the attempts by the gospel writers to reconcile john's status with that of jesus, what is certain is that ultimately it is jesus' movement that survives and prospers. >> initially, it seems that john is a mentor figure to jesus. after all, he's baptizing jesus in the river jordan and has attracted him there. but afterwards they go their separate ways. >> one of the great lines of john the baptist that i really, really love is, as jesus is growing in popularity, while john still has a ministry, h...

Baptizing. >> in the gospels, you see this trying to tackle this problem of jesus being baptized by john, indicating jesus was in a subordinate position which was a problem for the early church. >> for all the attempts by the gospel writers to reconcile john's status with that of jesus, what is certain is that ultimately it is jesus' movement that survives and prospers. >> initially, it seems that john is a mentor figure to jesus. after all, he's baptizing jesus in the river jordan and has attracted him there. but afterwards they go their separate ways. >> one of the great lines of john the ba...