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I think we ought to surprise ourselves and do something intelligent and try to keep it open. but having said that, what i think doesn't really matter. i don't think the president is bluffing. if i were playing poker with him today, and i looked across the table and saw the facial expression i saw today and the mannerisms and i didn't have the cards, would i fold because i don't think he's bluffing. >> i understand that but what cards does he hold? here to me is the leverage problem he may have. the 1.6 billion that had been agreed to was a number that came from his budget and came from the sen...

They are getting nothing done. one reason is they can't get a message out. they walk through the halls of congress and talk about they priorities on taxes and health care and being asked questions about the off the wall statements by the president that will indefensible. i think it's got to be driving them nuts. >> he touches on a good point that i don't think gets put out there often enough. that is exhaustion. i cannot tell you on capitol hill have told me how exhausts they are. i'm talking about people been there for many years. i can see it in the faces of the people in the white house. >>...

He didn't. now the north koreans do. >> but the question i'm asking is, if all of these analysts right now are suggesting, fareed, he's bluffing, he's got his own initiative, he's not going to do nag crazy, suicidal, should we believe that? >> what we have to do is some mixture of deterrence. i agree that there has to be a better way to understand them. tess regimes are inherently unpredictable because they rest on very narrow bases of power. one guy. the saddam case is a perfect one. it wasn't just u.s. analysts saying this, it was the king of jordan saying this, the president of egypt. all t...

United states assembled, with a coalition, 500,000 troops. >> over six months. >> yes. and did the job of getting rid of him. they would thought appease what happened. and he went back. the real bluff was saddam hussein thinking the world was bluffing in 2003. he didn't think the united states was going to invade. and he was busy telling people he didn't have any nuclear -- that he had nuclear weapons when he didn't. now the north koreans do. >> but the question i'm asking is, if all of these analysts right now are suggesting, fareed, he's bluffing, he's got his own initiative, he's not going ...