MSNBC Dateline June 5, 2021 08:15:00
>> he was the one that told everybody what they were gonna do and when they were gonna do it and how they were gonna do that. >> reporter: really bossy guy, my way or the highway kinda thing? >> kind of. he was very good at, like, manipulating you i guess you could say. >> reporter: was your mom vulnerable, do you think, he seemed to know where people's buttons were. >> yes, very much so. >> reporter: he's steppin' in like the boss, huh? >> yeah, he acted like he was my dad. >> reporter: what do you think that thing was that he put together that you got pulled into, sara? >> a cult. >> reporte...