I wonder how russia reads all of this aid. arguably from some, too much sensitivity about russia's reactions but quite lethal assistance. do they look at this as an escalation? >> i think they definitely do and are worried, jim. they said any type of equipment that comes in from the west is fair game, they can target it and i think putin realizes that this is very serious. much more difficult for the russians to accomplish what they seem to want to accomplish. >> as you just heard brianna mention, there's discussion about having a cabinet level official, high cabinet level official visit kyiv ...