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Substance. i think he believe there's isn't much substance there. that is my -- >> so what is it about american politics? are you crazy? yes, i'm crazy. let's keep talking. >> you to hit those two buttons and also have to hit the obamacare button and a few others, and everybody else out this in the base is saying yes, right. we need to impeach -- >> did you catch the fellow? i don't know the fellow, but he certainly is crazy. two weeks ago i asked him to check his stud book of a record of where he stands in the brain department, i said do you think the president was legitimately elected? i kne...

At a time when the american people are still asking the question where are the jobs, why would we want to make it harder for small employers to hire people? >> you know, chuck, last night reminded me of high school debating. it was the same old arguments. i mean, i'm not putting him down necessarily. but what we heard from senator rubio and boehner. let's fight over minimum wage. the evils of minimum wage. >> this is where you look at this -- and i look at this speech as a political document. you look at the minimum wage is a 65% approved item. when you look at universal pre-k. that's a 65% ap...

28 years that i've been in elective office. and when you raise the price of employment, guess what happens. you get less of it. at a time when the american people are still asking the question where are the jobs, why would we want to make it harder for small employers to hire people? >> you know, chuck, last night reminded me of high school debating. it was the same old arguments. i mean, i'm not putting him down necessarily. but what we heard from senator rubio and boehner. let's fight over minimum wage. the evils of minimum wage. >> this is where you look at this -- and i look at this speech...

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