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So they're doing very well already. >> bruce, who would be on a trip like this with mike pompeo? who goes with him? whose part of that discussion? >> well, certainly u.s. cia officials would be a part of it. we don't know if state department officials also participated. but as ambassador hill points out, all these issues have been on the table before and the devil has always been in the details with north korea. so if north korea says we're willing to denuclearize, that's not the same as saying they're willing to back up air force one and put all the nukes on the plane. so, you know, we need a...

Director. i hope he can tone down some of that politics when he gets to the state department and try to get that building functioning with all the talent that it has. so we'll have to see. but certainly this issue of negotiating with the north koreans, that's not something that comes naturally to someone like mike pompeo. so he's doing that because he's trying to be loyal to the president. so let's see if by helping to kind of turn the president's vision into reality there, he can turn the reality into something positive. and this remains to be seen. >> in what condition is rex tillerson leavi...