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Point when you see those numbers, shouldn't given all that has come out about donald trump in the last several weeks, starting with the taxes in 9 9 5s is to these allegations on the tape, shouldn't the poll numbers not be so close? >> there are polls -- the national polls have her leading 9, 11, 12. she's not going to win this election by nine points. it's crazy. in fact, it's artificially high in the national polls, much closer in the battlegrounds. guess what, it's why we call them battlegrounds. i've said from the beginning it will be a close race. trump is strongest in iowa and ohio of th...

Starting with the taxes in '95, to these allegations on the tape, shouldn't the poll numbers not be so close? >> there are polls -- the national polls have her leading 9, 11, 12. she's not going to win this election by nine points. it's crazy. in fact, it's artificially high in the national polls, much closer in the battlegrounds. guess what, it's why we call them battlegrounds. i've said from the beginning it will be a close race. trump is strongest in iowa and ohio of the battleground states, highest percentage of non college whites. he's weakest in north carolina, virginia, especially, and ...

The headlines, but we're not seeing that getting to these poll numbers here. >> without a doubt, and it's interesting how much of a gap there is between the nationwide polling numbers that pretty much consistently show hillary clinton with the exception of a new polls with a command and a comfortable lead. there's a gap between those polls and polls in the number of swing states, particularly ohio, where almost depending on what day of the week it is, you have a poll showing trump leading or a poll showing hillary leading. florida is a lot more competitive than a lot more democrats would have ...