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Candidate who vows to break the hardest gls ceiling, more than 80% say electing the first woman president does not matter in their vote. i'm going to go to you first on this one, tony. she's got a panel van like could bey d -- scooby doo and it's called the mystery machine. >> we have a few clinton mysteries. where is the email? where is bill? it's amazing we could follow o.j.'s bronco down a los angeles expressway. yet we can't follow hillary's van. the problem with hillary right now is not just the strategy of trying to appear more authentic and making it other people. the problem with hilla...

Is through a foundation. >> can i stop you? do people really care about that? >> they should. >> it seems a little inside baseball because look. the clintons have raised money from big wall street companies before, harris and you lake-effect at the real numbers. hillary has high negatives. very high negatives but she has 100% name i.d. so everybody knows who she is. my question; -- my question is how do republicans run against her? >> do we think they're going to pull their grandmothers on the trail? is that what we're saying? you hit the nail on the head with that issue. i agree. i think the ...

Every day american's champion. i think that's why you're seeing a relukt -- re-luctance by democrats. >> we saw yesterday the new york city mayor who ran her campaign for senate here in new york he wouldn't even endorse her on the sunday shows so how realistic is it that someone is going to get in and challenge hillary? >> it's really tough to tell. not only is it a question of who but how serious are they going to be? is martin o'malley a failed governor of maryland going to be the barack obama? >> have you heard him speak? she really has to be the idea he could potentially challenge her. >> ...