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Or the fact for me it was a gun. you took a weapon, it didn't matter. you shot him once but you kept going and shot him six times. there's just no need for that. and no need to use a gun, period. no need to use a gun. for me personally it was about the gun. it was about taking that weapon knowing what you're going to do and shooting somebody and killing them. that's pretty cruel. >> do you feel like he did pull the trigger? or do you know? >> i don't know. there's no evidence to support that he pulled the trigger, but he chose not to do anything about it. and he's the one that had the -- exact...

Pull the trigger. >> but they definitely felt that aaron hernandez was the ring leader. >> and here they are staring at the man and at times trying to look him right in the eye. >> i thing a lot of them found themselves looking at him in the eye, although i think they got startled by him. and i said, court rooms are very intimate the guy is right there. and i asked them what that was like day after day and week after week. >> i noticed a couple of you have called him aaron and i think people who haven't been on a jury don't understand the intimacy of being in the courtroom where someone is sit...

>> i notice quite a few of you have called him aaron. i think people who haven't been on a jury don't understand the intimacy that exists in a courtroom where somebody is sitting, you know, a couple feet away from you and -- >> for three months every day. >> that's right. >> did you look at him a lot? did he look at you? >> i did. >> yes. >> oh yeah. one time we made eye contact, and he actually nodded to me at one time. you know it's hard. you come in that room every day, and you see this person and it's hard to come to that decision at the end because three months with them it's almost like ...

Rocking in his chair and licking his lips and rubbing his chin when he finds he will learn the rest of his life behind bars and mouthing the words, "they're wrong." susan candiotti. >> and the question is how does someone like that affect you, the jury. here is part two of my conversation with the hernandez jury. >> i notice you have called him aaron. and i think people who haven't been on a jury don't understand the intimacy that exists in a courtroom where somebody is sitting, you know a couple of feet away from you, and -- >> for three months every day. >> that is right. >> yeah. >> did you...

Let's get right to it. and joel first to you. to hear anderson's observations when he's talking to all these jurors and they're all referring to aaron hernandez by his first name "aaron" to me is an intimacy they say they all felt while silting in this court room for three months. has this become a home away from home? >> absolutely. a courtroom in any situation, becomes a home away from home. they watch them and know stories or makeup stories about them. and obviously, the defendant, clearly the defense attorneys called him aaron and they pick up on that and move forward with that. they watch...