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Administration officials, family members, all first-hand fact witnesses who will testify about what happened in the days leading up to and on january 6th between trump and pence. >> jamie gangel, appreciate it. thank you. >> sure. perspective from john yu and also jeffrey toobin. how big a deal is this about ginni thomas corresponding with john eastman? >> let's remember who john eastman. he is the person that said really needs a criminal defense lawyer, which he got and he's now taking the fifth. he's also someone who the judge in the subpoena case said you -- there was illegal activity goi...

And for families across the country. >> what do you say to parent who is say, well, look, it doesn't seem like it's that bad in kids and the chance of them ending up in the hospital and dying from it is low. why get a vaccine? >> what i would say is that more than 400 children in this age group, 0-5, have died from covid since the beginning of the pandemic. thousands of these young kids have been hospitalized, and it's extremely distressing, as all parents know, for our children to become ill. so, if there's the possibility of my doing something for my children that would reduce their risk tha...

The fact that ginni thomas was emailing with him doesn't mean at all that she was involved potentially in criminal activity. but it is yet another sign that she was intimately involved in the whole effort to overturn the election, which is her right under the first amendment. the issue is why was clarence thomas, her husband, sitting on cases that were relevant to january 6 and has continued to sit in these cases? that's what's really outrageous to me about the whole thing. >> do you think he should have recused himself? >> of course he should have recused himself. i mean, his wife is intimate...

I mean, is it enough to actually change the trajectory of the virus or are the numbers really small? >> i think the numbers are going to be low from a population standpoint because when we look at 5 to 11 year olds, less than 30% are fully vaccinated. that's really low. and i think the uptake may be even lower for this younger age group. i don't think it's going to do much when it comes to stopping the virus from spreading on a population level. but i think still this is an important milestone psychologically because there are millions of parents out there, including my family, who have held o...