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Those sorts of things. he's a liberal on minimum wage and global warming. and health care. >> he splits the ticket on the left. >> what he is seeing is what the democratic party is so extremely liberal so far as to be socialist that even a liberal like him doesn't fit in anymore and that's a huge statement about where the democratic party is right now. >> how do you see it? >> i agree with him. i was at an event that mitt romney puts on during the summer in utah. and both were there and both of them spoke. at that time, we were thinking that both, either, one or the other might wage an indepen...

Running for president. i will run as a independent. >> the next ross or something else. he runs, do you think he does or he doesn't? if he does, whom does he help and who does he hurt? >> he's going to run. he has a team around him and he's paying them and putting this together. look, i mean, there is no real room for a third party. we have seen that over and over again. it's hard to get on the ballot. it's hard to establish the kinds of things that donald trump is doing now, getting grass roots activated and raising money and those sorts of things. he's a liberal on minimum wage and health ca...

>> what do i know about the russi russians? >> i don't have any deal with russia i have nothing to do with russia, folks. nothing to do. nothing to do with russia. this is a conspiracy between donald trump and russia. give me a break. i have nothing to do with russia. >> those last two, october of 2016. as mr. giuliani said to me, called it an active proposal. i don't know what part could be different. >> that's the funny thing or the interesting thing. president trump himself or candidate then would say i have nothing to do and no deals. now we are seeing how everyone around him doesn't know ...

Which is basically what we know that from the beginning, particularly when we found out the president probably got the idea from a breitbart write up of a conservative talk show rant. the breitbart report circulated among trump's senior aides. the president refuses to admit that. he now says he saw something on fox news and in a remarkable exchange yesterday in which a fox news host basically asked him doesn't he have better information than fox news, the president referred back to fox news. >> but you're the president. you have to ability to gather all the evidence you want. >> i do. but i th...

Both congressional committees looking to the president's completely unsupported allegation of wiretapping by president obama have found no evidence of it. today, the senate intelligence committee released this statement from its republican chairman and democratic vice chairman. "based on the information available to us, we see no indication that trump tower was the subject of surveillance by any element to the united states government, either before or after election day, 2016." which is basically what we know that from the beginning, particularly when we found out the president probably got t...