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Job. but because of pressure it was repeatedly put on by petro poroshenko that is what ended up in him environment. brian: what are your thoughts when you saw the tape of vice president biden speaking to the council on foreign relations, saying you had six hours to fire you or you're not going to get the billion dollars? >> only the position of president petro poroshenko the office was humiliated. but the entire country of ukraine was humiliated. i developed a very firm understanding of the fact vice president -- the vice president was only acting in his best interest. he generally speaking, h...

Job. but because of pressure it was repeatedly put on by petro poroshenko that is what ended up in him environment. brian: what are your thoughts when you saw the tape of vice president biden speaking to the council on foreign relations, saying you had six hours to fire you or you're not going to get the billion dollars? >> only the position of president petro poroshenko the office was humiliated. but the entire country of ukraine was humiliated. i developed a very firm understanding of the fact vice president -- the vice president was only acting in his best interest. he generally speaking, h...

>> well, i understand the speaker's instincts in this regard. we don't want to make donald trump an underdog. he thrives in that kind of us against him environment. it's interesting, he tries to make himself an outlier when in fact he is the ultimate insider. and so i think that we have to be very careful and delicate as it relates to the impeachment question, because we do not want to make him the underdog going into the 2020 elections. >> if you want impeachment but you won't publicly pressure leadership to do it, how is that really a full-throated push for impeachment? >> well, that's untru...

Political basis, this is the issue where they are not going to agree. a lot of people do, and they can't agree. >> kimberly: this is what happens. california, the leaders, the governor, aggressive against president trump, his immigration policies. you have made errors making a protest, warning illegals there is about to be a raid. suing him environment the about the wall, taking a lot of heat about that. everybody was running for office for governor next feels the same way and wants to sue. i don't think that's going to work out very well for them. what i like about president trump is he is no...