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And also -- >> you can say that -- >> but the politics of the moment, the economic necessity, the national priority to solve these problems, is so intense, not just that problem, that these parties are going to have to find a way to behave in a more logical way. it's demanded of them by the american people. >> the white house does not realize now and the president does not realize right now, that his mere re-election will not make the republicans find him to be any more legitimate than bill clinton's re-election made him lenl mate and they're actually believing right now, i know this, and you ...