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When there's a fight and basketball fight in baseball on the benches empty and there's a brawl. i was a hockey player.we playe every sport we played growing up at some point during the day, we all fight. and then we'd pick up our gloves and we start playing again or start playing, basketball or whatever it was. iand so you have draymond green and jordan, right?nflict >> they have this little conflict. so what? so pain likerybody this so outraged overr a little conflict between two players? a >> it's bound to happen. it's a contact sport. get over it. well, first of all, in thatin particular si...

Vulcanization has to be rooted out. that's the root of it and the truth is, every time i hear the president address that, i agree with that and i believe in that. >> but there's -- >> this is bad, this is okay. that's wrong. >> another tactic is to say this is a media talking point so that doesn't excuse the more than 13 republican senators who have came out against it, the business people, i suppose we're all in this media conspiracy to download the president. >> it's been very successful at hurting him litt politically. >> one was for a defined audience, the veterans, and then the other spee...