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Chief for the "washington post," and john heilemann, veteran journalist, msnbc national affairs analyst, co-author of "game change," co-host of "the circus" on showtime. phil, you'll excuse me. it was congresswoman bass who kept calling him mccann today to the point of great frustration here in the studio. a very basic question for you, phil. in your judgment did it just get harder for the democrats to get mcgahn in front of that committee? >> well, that's a good question, brian. as you lay it out, that's the next step for democrats. and what they're trying to do here is build some momentum. t...

It was congresswoman bass who kept calling him mccann today to the point of great frustration here in the studio. a very basic question for you, phil. in your judgment did it just get harder for the democrats to get mcgahn in front of that committee? >> well, that's a good question, brian. as you lay it out, that's the next step for democrats. and what they're trying to do here is build some momentum. they have the facts that are laid out in the report. they have the facts that mueller testified to. what they're missing is the political momentum to move towards impeachment. and having an open ...

Phil, you'll excuse me. it was congresswoman bass who kept calling him mccann today to the point of great frustration here in the studio. a very basic question for you, phil. in your judgment did it just get harder for the democrats to get mcgahn in front of that committee? >> well, that's a good question, brian. as you lay it out, that's the next step for democrats. and what they're trying to do here is build some momentum. they have the facts that are laid out in the report. they have the facts that mueller testified to. what they're missing is the political momentum to move towards impeachm...