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This sense of how they embrace him. >> rick stengel who co-authored mandela's biography, "long walk to freedom." did mandela like the first name given to him first day of school? >> of all time i spent with him, i don't remember everyone ever calling him nelson except for the queen and i wasn't there when that happened. it's funny. you were talking about it before. pfs a methodist school near qunu. had he a white african teacher. to go back to him growing up there. one of the reasons he had such great awareness with african history is his youth was not affected by any white powers or white gov...

Emulating and treasuring his memory. >> thank you. cameron a young man very moved by the mandela experience. >> absolutely. he mentioned the queen and their relationship. there was sort of a charming relationship between mandela and the queen. besides the fact he can call her elizabeth because she is a rather stickler for protocol. >> i wonder how that went down the first time he did it? >> wouldn't have cared because she called him nelson and he thought i'm going to call her elizabeth. once when he hadn't seen her in a while and arrived at buckingham palace, elizabeth, you've lost weight! >> ...

Troublemaker. >> i love that. >> it's so -- >> that was his birth name, troublemaker was extraordinary. >> when i started working with him, i never, ever heard anyone call him nelson. at the same time, he wasn't president yet. i heard people use his clan name modiba. it shows his background and it's paternal and just stuck. so that's -- everybody called him modiba. >> the courage it took in the 50s, the '60s, this regime that attempted to have absolute control. it's hard i think for anybody who didn't live through those times to understand what this took to oppose and ultimately over throw thi...

Thoughts on his passing? >> goodness, thank you, anderson. first of all, their relationship. i think to understand the sacrifice that madiba made going to prison which is so difficult. we can put words to it and faith m 27 years but how does anyone know what that means? when you met winnie mandela and i met her in the '80s and yes encountered the incredible beauty and presence and eloquence of this woman, you understood the sacrifice that this man made when he left this woman through his commitment and i think their mutual commitment actually to struggle against the domination of a parti, i th...

Television station when mandala was president. so she's kind of gotten to know him well, so to speak. tell us more about him. >> i had the pleasure of introducing mandala to events. one was the opening of the sos children's villages and another one was the greek businessman of the year, because he was mandala's lawyer and he was greek. mandala grew up in the rural area of africa, at the circumcision, 16 years old, he goes, i am now a man and at that point he enters manhood and one of the chiefs says to him, but you haven't because you are a black man in country that is occupied by other people...