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Brave face saying, oh, this is going to help us politically, we are going to raise a ton of money. but to elliott's point, they have a calendar problem as well. they have got cases -- some of them have not even come to fruition. and they also have primaries beginning in january. >> yes. and, i think, we saw today, though, that they are going to try to spin this into a win. obviously, it wasn't a good day by any measure. donald trump was arraigned. and federally indicted. and i think that, as evidenced by them taking into that restaurant in miami, they knew that there were no cameras in the cou...

The country and signed the first step into law letting out hoardes of violent criminals on to the streets. these are things i expect governor desantis to hit him on. lawrence: all those things are fair to bring up in debate. all that stuff is out there. we are not talking about a small margin. we are talking about 50% of republican voters are still going with donald trump. is that the way to attack donald trump? >> i think americans aren't paying attention. a lot of americans have to get acquainted with ron desantis. they don't know about this record in florida where he has been one of the mos...

>> rachel: i think some things are more important than money, kevin but what do i know? i'm not a business person. now, changing topics. elon musk has been making headlines for months. everything from taking over twitter to launching desantis' presidential campaign. but there's one thing i know you disagree with him on. and that is work from home. so what did you think when you heard elon musk say this? >> look, i'm a big believer that people are more productive when they are in person. it's like really you are going to work from home and you are going to make everyone else who made your car w...

With him. he was anti- vaccine, for example. however every other position i will disagree with him on. some are thinking and our believing he could be a real challenge to joe biden. do you believe that? >> the democrats have made it clear that once they choose a candidate they choose a candidate and that candidate will be strong. i don't see a lot of people coming around kennedy right now. i see what happened in 2020 happening again if he chooses to run. behind the scenes, they are panicked. they are panicked because you talk about jill biden. she is a master at making it seem like he is fine....

Punch holes in that. david, i'm going to jump _ punch holes in that. david, i'm going to jump in _ punch holes in that. david, i'm going to jump in there - punch holes in that. david, i'm going to jump in there and - going tojump in there and interrupted briefly because it looks like he has wrapped up his speech, we'lljust listen to that for a moment. we see him just walking off the stage. the big crowds are cheering him on. this is quite an importantand cheering him on. this is quite an important and big show. the same music that he plays at his campaigns. it certainly think about this. it's ...