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Never was able to achieve? >> absolutely. i mean, kim jong un was able to achieve somethin his father and grandfather had sought but he couldn't achieve. he got to sit down with the most powerful man in the world, the american president, gave him prestige, will the legitimacy. and as max just pointed out, in return it's not like we didn't give anything. we then talked about stopping exercises. and again, as max said, in using north korea's own rhetoric, calling it provocative, calling it war games instead of saying these are defensive in nature and these are training that we're doing because o...

U.s. south korea alliance. in which he is saying that the north korea nuclear threat no longer exists that is going to undermine sanctions. that is what the president is sayi. this is a huge lie one-sided outcome in which north korea is getting everything it wanted and the united states is getting pretty much nothing. >> do you think this has legitimized the north korean regime in the way kim jong-un father and grandfather never able to achieve? >> absolutely. kim jong-un was able to achieve something that his father and grandfather had sought. he got to sit down with the most powerful man in ...