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Even tried to commit suicide and they also alleged that he may have injected himself. but the problem is, geraldo, again, physician in a confidential arrangement being paid good money with this kind of medication for a hospital setting they have a very, very tough case to overcome. >> geraldo: the defense does. >> yes, sir. >> geraldo: i know you have met dr. conrad murray. i don't want you to give away any of your conversations but what would you advice a person like him in this situation in terms of facing the jury? would you take the witness stand? >> he has a few things against him. we cal...