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Faster than washington democrats did. knowing we're on a disastrous political course. >> he knows what you need to do to get elected state wide, which is not to appeal to the base he has locked up, but to appeal to upstate voters, a lot of them are independents, and he needs to get them on board if he's going to win, with approval ratings as low as they've been. >> they went up a little bit if cuomo beats him by a sizable amount -- >> despite his defiant words yet, i cannot imagine him making this race. it doesn't make any sense. >> you don't think he'll run? >> paterson? >> no. i just can't i...

His death in may. he'll make a decision by the end of the summer biden says. peri perry, thanks for joining us. do people think the vice president is going to run. >> the vice president has left the door open. he's left the door open till september. i've heard in the last day and a half there is not a lot of enthusiasm for him to run at least so far. a lot of people in washington are already behind senator clinton. even people who used to work for vice president bide p. and a lot of people i've talked to who are not clinton supporters say they would rather have someone like a bernie sanders. s...