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Anything like this -- >> well, it's a definitely technique. >> it washes over him. >> notice i call him in every interview mr. trump. this was before he was president. mr. trump. >> that's intentional. >> oh, absolutely. someone had asked me why do you call him mr. trump, i said because it loosens him up, he feels respected, he feels good about him sechl, now he's going to roll, he's going to open up to me. >> when you see him now in the white house as president, what do you say? >> well, first of all, it's unbelievable to me. i've documented my thoughts about how this whole candidacy even cam...

He's like a dog on a bone on this stuff. it has now created such a metastasis in this city. >> by now firing comey, and we had a session recusing him sechl. now we have rosenstein bringing in mueller who brings in these other lawyers and now we have transition lawyers saying, hold your -- having aides and others involved in the transition team, having them preserve their files and notes. i mean, this thing has exploded because of donald trump. all he had to do was not fire comey. >> or not even -- he's got the situation, josh, where he has this memo where rosenstein and sessions say that comey...

All of it just a blanket sort of hypothetical here. sean maybe was right that there wasn't necessarily a specific investigation that they were confirming that he would recuse himself from. that said, it didn't mean that he wouldn't need to recuse himself. >> david, there is a bigger problem here. why doesn't the white house know what is going on? >> right. we should make clear to the audience those sound bites you just played, they're from the same day. that was sean spicer today, attorney general -- >> sean spicer in the morning and attorney general few hours later. >> let's make that clear. ...