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Particularly in the counter-east. >> and anything that the ukrainians can do to keep the russians out of that is key. but even if you're gaining ground here, what does that do here with all the fighting and the russians have taken a lot of territory? >> they've taken a lot of territory and there's early reports that they're removing stations down in the south where kherson is, that is where the focus will be over the next coming weeks. but it's just very hard to tell, john. as i mentioned it's been deadlocked. but the backing of the himars system has been there. >> we've seen so much activity ...

As her state michigan has a large ukrainian population and it is where soldiers were trained to use the himars system, and that was a point of the visit, by giving a challenge coin. she is just back from kyiv. she joins us next: challenge coin she is just back from kyiv she joins us next:

>> cnn has identified nearly 20 strikes so far helped russian lines this month. and now we have nic robertson joining us live from kyiv. so nic, we heard what zelenskyy was saying there. what weapons do ukrainian officials are helping them the most right now? >> reporter: the himars system which is something that really got in their hands and had training on over the past couple of weeks they say is delivering a below against the russian forces that the russians hadn't either anticipated or properly prepared for which giving them a military advantage along the frontline right now. it is no sur...

In particular practerhaps is in name. himars is high moenlt andmobili and if you have a good and effective weapon system, of course russians will figure out where it is and target it. but the other thing that is really in play for the ukrainians right now, what is really hurting the russians, is that these are longer range weapon systems than the ukrainians previously had and they are more accurate. so when they know where russian ammunition dumps are, they have hit them in mykolaiv, in kehersn oig and donetsk regions, they can hit them more. and so this is what the ukrainians hope will stop t...

Has been going on, as been publicly acknowledged for a number of weeks, if not a month now, and as an example, with the himars system. it takes about three weeks to take a basic artilleryman, someone who has already been trained in using artillery to learn the more sophisticated aspects of the himars system. hopefully, that has been going on, and i would think that is taking place outside ukraine. then it becomes a question of getting that trained crewmen married up with the weapons systems and the ammunition, and that means the equipment and ammo has to get from where ever to stash whatever i...