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When he came into office and people said, no, there's too much anxiety out there. people are too scared. >> right. >> and that's still the way people feel. the notion of radically -- >> overhauling. >> -- overhauling the system is scary. >> what we get away with the clip, people in the obama headquarters smiling with glee how they're going to recycle that image in every ad that comes out. >> we were muttering at low volumes during that. you said that's bain right there. >> that's what a consultant does. down to the jacket off -- not that i should talk -- the jacket off, standing there, we're g...

"now" with alex wagner coming your way next. ari, what's coming up? >> happy monday. what we have coming up is bain, the story that governor romney can't seem to shake. did he set a trap for himself? we will look at the history and the politics. also, barack obama is still running for president while being president. we will assess the political balancing act there. then this big debate over medicaid funding. are some governors bluffing their way through a showdown that could ultimately eliminate health care for one of five americans? thursday. the perfect use of the 7th inning stretch. ge...

Be something else. they clearly have taken on some water as a result of this thing. people won't tell us any more. i kind of will try the same thing, myself. >> you don't want to be here. i mean, you don't want to be back and forth -- >> this is not the argument you want to be having. >> you're not talking about the performance of the economy over the last four years. you're talking about your biography. the only biography you're talking about is bain, did it outsource, did he fire people in these companies? >> right. they did that because they were taking on some water. >> it's a week after t...

Government had to spend $44 million bailing out the pension fund. after romney and his partners made millions. >> bob, you also wrote today that romney should release the records of all bain transactions from which he profited. explore that with us. >> well, i mean, look, if he's going to make this claim, and you did it very eloquently a minute ago. if he's going to make this claim about all the jobs created, fox is going to say net jobs created. let's put the records out there. let's not talk about character assassination. let's talk about facts. character assassination, it was this guy himse...

After romney and his partners made millions. >> bob, you also wrote today that romney should release the records of all bain transactions from which he profited. explore that with us. >> well, i mean, look, if he's going to make this claim, and you did it very eloquently a minute ago. if he's going to make this claim about all the jobs created, fox is going to say net jobs created. let's put the records out there. let's not talk about character assassination. let's talk about facts. character assassination, it was this guy himself who put his bain job record front and center. he said, that's h...